Elevating Consciousness Podcast #47: Kyle Kowalski with Artem Zen

Elevating Consciousness Podcast #47: Kyle Kowalski with Artem Zen


I went on the Elevating Consciousness podcast with Artem Zen for the second time on May 17, 2024.


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Watch (show notes below):

Elevating Consciousness Podcast Artem Zen

“Elevating Consciousness” Podcast #47 (Round 2): Money, Meaning, Meta-Crisis, & More

Show Notes

0:00 — Intro

1:30 — Money and meaning, monetizing meaning as a byproduct, meaning/purpose before money/profit, volume vs price, building a portfolio of products, ramping down spending while ramping up monetization, conscious capitalism, transition from corporate to entrepreneur, entrepreneurial runway, no option B, imposter syndrome, when did I think Sloww would work

30:30 — Challenge of taking a holistic, generalist approach

40:00 — Lifelong learning and deeper development, flywheel of questioning to learning to developing

43:45 — Start with purpose, work vs play, job crafting, pathless path

50:45 — Ego Development Theory, sense of self, Nora Bateson’s thoughts on developmental stage theories

1:09:30 — MetaCrisis.org, what is the meta-crisis, why the meta-crisis is a me-crisis

1:22:50 — Learning is in service of living, training ground and playing field are one and the same

1:24:30 — Spirituality vs religion, seeing beyond mind, spiritual translator/spiritual synthesizer, creating common ground and coming to terms, creating a better map or finger pointing at the moon, Wise Walk

1:29:40 — Relational practices, listening to life

1:37:15 — Synthesizer course

1:45:30 — Thoughts on anger, there’s no such thing as wrong experience, we see behavior but not experience, are people always doing their best

1:51:00 — Tears of joy

1:56:30 — Final message


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